In Designers Inc., a podcast about the business side of design practice, Roel Stavorinus talks to designers about their collaboration with clients or each other, about strategy, development and growth and about their own positioning and visibility.

Jos Oberdorf, partner at npk design, had a conversation with Roel last summer about product design from the perspective of npk design.

Listen to the podcast via this link:
https://designersinc.nl/jos-oberdorf-npk/